However, I don't think you can really take that pillar scene seriously, because if you do, then all the other threats that Yang faces just seem silly in comparison. I think that, at the very least, the fight should have been closer than they seemed to imply.Įssentially, the way I see it, if Yang can survive getting launched through a solid concrete pillar, then yes, she can take anything Tifa throws at her and basically laugh it off.
That, more than anything else, was what frustrated me about this video. Instead, they seemed to just assume Yang withstands, and handed her the victory. But the point is that how much damage Tifa's limit break does really mattered, and SA didn't even bother to calculate it. Now, all this is me throwing silly numbers around, and I'm sure my own calculations are vulnerable in a number of places. And THEN we have to factor in that the Premium Heart does increased damage based on the limit gauge, which was clearly maxed at the time, so as long as it increases by 25% or more. Even if we ignore the "force of a nuclear bomb" text from the FF7 strategy guide and instead use SA's calc for her throwing Cloud (150 Tons of force), that puts her force at 375 tons of force, which is much closer than the implied 150 vs. Meanwhile, Tifa's Final Heaven does 2.5 times her normal hit. Reducing Yang's durability similarly brings it from 1400 tons of force to about 462 tons of force. The numbers he tosses out are by a factor of three.150,000 goes to 40,000. Gonna do something foolish and interject a quick fancalc here, but.Īccording to u/xSPYXEx above, they miscalculated pretty badly on the concrete, doing vertical as opposed to horizontal. So no, SA's conclusion is perfectly sensible in this case. Given Tifa's baseline attack power, even with the Premium Heart she's unlikely to be able to apply force greater then that feat even with the 2.5 modifier that Final Heaven applies. It'd still be a rather absurd durability feat even at the low end of the estimate.
For arguments sake however lets assume that's correct. RT not bothering to detail rebar doesn't really change this. PS: The pillar was a bridge supporting pillar, and had to have the properties that allowed it to do this. I tend to agree with how DB handles Materia however. Walking into this, I expected that the only way Tifa could win is if, either she came loaded with gobs of high tier Materia, or that she had a Dissidia feat I wasn't aware of. And yes, I know that's a game mechanic, but it still an effective means of demonstrating the general power disparity between Tifa's basic attacks and her special attacks. So unless Tifa's standard attacks were concrete shattering Final Heaven is a lot of flash without too much bang. If Yang can get up from a fall at terminal velocity, or get up and fight after being knocked through a four foot thick concrete pillar, then there's absolutely nothing in Tifa's arsenal that can take Yang down.Įven Final Heaven isn't that big a deal, the attack only deals 2.5 times the baseline damage of Tifa's standard attack. Death Battle assumes no prep time however, and therefore goes with standard toolsets.Ĩ.5: I might also add that Tifa has very poor magic stats, so it'd be unusual for her to be talking around with a metric ton of super high tier magic materia.įrankly, I agree with the outcome here. There are a number of enemies and situations within FF7 that could have been resolved easily with Nuke fists.ĥ: Final Heaven only deals 2.5X normal damage, again if it were actually nuke powered it'd create huge plot holes.Ĩ: There's no argument that with prep time almost any FF7 character could come up with a Materia combination that could defeat Yang. 1: She has not demonstrated she can use that sort of strength outside of that special move, it's a major inconsistency with the character.Ģ: Conversely was sent sprawling as a result of a slap fight.ģ: Strategy guides are not cannon, what's more if this were literally true it'd be an immense plot hole of staggering proportions.
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